“The Lane Council of Governments had long had the task of doing the projections, but was accused of producing flawed numbers tailored to meet cities’ development goals.” WOW, this sounds a lot like MOLALLA
Wow – if you google land use or safe harbor you find a lot of places that sound just like Molalla – and you will learn that they lose out if they don’t follow the letter of DLCD’s mandates.
I found one from a Bend Planning Commission meeting that talks about just that subject – that they would be successful if they used Safe Harbor.
I also read a great account of a LUBA case where Friends of French Prairie sued the City of Donald and Marion County at LUBA (land use board of appeals). The “Friends” won!! LUBA ruled that Donald/Marion County had not properly used Safe Harbor to figure a UGB land addition so the UGB addition was invalid. Go LUBA!! Go Safe Harbor!!
Try it yourself – “safe harbor” is very successful, so successful that DLCD is extending the reach of the “safe harbor” idea to extend to how land additions are figured – so that there is a codified way all cities must use so that no one gets “carried away” in the “land needs” department.
Sounds kind of scary, doesn’t it Molalla “plannin” ?- sounds like more rough waters ahead If you ever make it to the “land addition” part, there will be piles of new hoops to jump through and a hoppin’ mad bunch of local conservationists to contest YOUR “plans”! OUR plans are to protect and honor natural resources and resource lands from asphalt and YOUR BAD PLANNIN’!
It is totally amazing to see the highly detailed, very accurate minutes that EVERY OTHER CITY posts for their meetings. Molalla produces inaccurate minutes that lack detail. Other cities have lively discussions – Molalla works hard to suppress public input.! Google away, folks, learn how REAL HONEST CITIES CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS!
Quote from a PSU demographic study done for Molalla River School District about the Comp Plan efforts here:
“Even if the current URA proposal is adopted by the City, many additional stages including state approval, Urban Growth Boundary expansion, annexations, land use applications, infrastructure extension, site preparation, and home construction are required before potential new urban land is occupied. These stages may take several years altogether.”
The upshot is that despite “Molalla Plannin’s” input about “growth” the experts at PSU look at Molalla’s potential for residential expansion with a skeptical eye. The point being that Molalla Plannin’ is far, far, far from getting ANYTHING DONE regarding the UGB expansion. A backward berg can say anything – but without county and state approval nothing is official and not a scrap of land gets added.
Here is one of the funniest and most telling Comp Plan stories yet:
Yesterday, while reading through the PUBLIC FILES on the PUBLIC COMP PLAN for the third time I found a new document labeled “Resolution No. 2007-05″ recorded on Feb 14, 2007 and signed by all six City Councilors.
This hilarious and ignorant document has the City Council endorsing via Resolution the very Hovee population figures that DLCD and the County now say are garbage.
And, to top off the ignorance of due process and proper procedure, the City “leaders” endorsed this baloney less than two weeks AFTER that plannin’ fool Potter got a scathing letter from DLCD about his “submission” – a hack job “comp plan” that DLCD laughed right off the stage – to the point that the DLCD writer suggested that next time Molalla get someone to proof read and to correct the massive spelling errors!
So, over TWO YEARS AGO the City Council ignored feedback from DLCD, ignored the County process, and passed a meaningless Resolution endorsing population #’s that are far too high. And then they muddled right ahead and let Potter, the plannin’ fool from Hell, write over TWO YEARS worth of more plannin’ baloney based on the WRONG POPULATION FIGURES.
WOW – what WILL they pass next ? A Resolution declaring Molalla the best city in Italy? Will they succeed and move the city to Texas? How about if they declare Molalla the State Capitol and take over running everything – how’s that for a scary story of your “leaders’ at “work”?
Clackamas County just sent ANOTHER LETTER to Molalla plannin’ to say once and for all SAFE HARBOR IS THE ONLY OPTION.
Can Molalla get its money back for all the BAD LEGAL ADVICE – and for all the years plannin’ WASTED plannin’ with the WRONG POPULATION FIGURES?
The plannin’ fools can now REVISE EVERYTHING – and the BIG LOSERS will be the pushy, greedy, “we could care less about Molalla” INSIDE TRADING LAND SPECULATORS.
Get it yet planners: LESS POPULATION MEANS LESS LAND. And the way things are going here you add land INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS ALL THE TIME – the next addition will be SCOTTS – how many acres will you “get” when that polluter goes bye bye soon? Aren’t you lucky that you have all those abandoned acres of car lots, lumber yards, mills, empty store fronts, and Scotts to “plan” for? All that opportunity without having to add a scrap of land!
Plannin’ opportunities abound here – called INFILL.
What a wealth of opportunity! Get a plannin’ – it will be easy now that there is NO CHOICE BUT SAFE HARBOR!
Today’s Oregonian has an article in a series called “Jobless in Oregon” titled “Losing jobs, hope” about hard times in Harney County, Oregon. There is a quote from a Harney County resident about the horrible lack of economic opportunities that could have been made by a person from Molalla, since it hits the problems in our box canyonville village on the head. The quote goes:
“It’s the whole chicken-and-the-egg thing. No one wants to locate here because there’s nothing here. But there’s nothing here because no on wants to invest here”. (Hines City Council sometime member Kevin Taylor).
Economic opportunities are shrinking state wide – unfortunately, transportation, quality of life issues, and concentrated work forces will determine where future economic growth will occur – and that doesn’t bode well for off the beaten path, ill planned, tiny Molalla. It is time for Molalla to celebrate the only going economic engine here – agriculture!
I laughed when I read recent plannin’ co-mission minutes where clueless Commission member Joe Greenman actually lamented the presence of the “feed store” in downtown.
Hey Greenman – do you get that the FEED STORE actually MAKES MONEY AND HAS A TON OF CUSTOMERS?
Hey Greenman: do you get that your “co-mission” is proposing idiotic “equestrian estates” in the CITY? Do you get that LARGE EQUINES EAT A LOT / NEED A LOT OF “STUFF” – and need FEED STORES NEARBY TO STAY ALIVE? That generates MONEY! The FEED STORE MAKES MONEY!
So, Greenman, I dare you and the scoff law fools making “plans” to create zoning to hound one of the few types of businesses – FEED STORES – that make MONEY out of the city! Get your heads out of the sand – read and heed the above “chicken and egg” quote because it fits Molalla perfectly!
“The Lane Council of Governments had long had the task of doing the projections, but was accused of producing flawed numbers tailored to meet cities’ development goals.” WOW, this sounds a lot like MOLALLA
Wow – if you google land use or safe harbor you find a lot of places that sound just like Molalla – and you will learn that they lose out if they don’t follow the letter of DLCD’s mandates.
I found one from a Bend Planning Commission meeting that talks about just that subject – that they would be successful if they used Safe Harbor.
I also read a great account of a LUBA case where Friends of French Prairie sued the City of Donald and Marion County at LUBA (land use board of appeals). The “Friends” won!! LUBA ruled that Donald/Marion County had not properly used Safe Harbor to figure a UGB land addition so the UGB addition was invalid. Go LUBA!! Go Safe Harbor!!
Try it yourself – “safe harbor” is very successful, so successful that DLCD is extending the reach of the “safe harbor” idea to extend to how land additions are figured – so that there is a codified way all cities must use so that no one gets “carried away” in the “land needs” department.
Sounds kind of scary, doesn’t it Molalla “plannin” ?- sounds like more rough waters ahead If you ever make it to the “land addition” part, there will be piles of new hoops to jump through and a hoppin’ mad bunch of local conservationists to contest YOUR “plans”! OUR plans are to protect and honor natural resources and resource lands from asphalt and YOUR BAD PLANNIN’!
It is totally amazing to see the highly detailed, very accurate minutes that EVERY OTHER CITY posts for their meetings. Molalla produces inaccurate minutes that lack detail. Other cities have lively discussions – Molalla works hard to suppress public input.! Google away, folks, learn how REAL HONEST CITIES CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS!
Quote from a PSU demographic study done for Molalla River School District about the Comp Plan efforts here:
“Even if the current URA proposal is adopted by the City, many additional stages including state approval, Urban Growth Boundary expansion, annexations, land use applications, infrastructure extension, site preparation, and home construction are required before potential new urban land is occupied. These stages may take several years altogether.”
The upshot is that despite “Molalla Plannin’s” input about “growth” the experts at PSU look at Molalla’s potential for residential expansion with a skeptical eye. The point being that Molalla Plannin’ is far, far, far from getting ANYTHING DONE regarding the UGB expansion. A backward berg can say anything – but without county and state approval nothing is official and not a scrap of land gets added.
Here is one of the funniest and most telling Comp Plan stories yet:
Yesterday, while reading through the PUBLIC FILES on the PUBLIC COMP PLAN for the third time I found a new document labeled “Resolution No. 2007-05″ recorded on Feb 14, 2007 and signed by all six City Councilors.
This hilarious and ignorant document has the City Council endorsing via Resolution the very Hovee population figures that DLCD and the County now say are garbage.
And, to top off the ignorance of due process and proper procedure, the City “leaders” endorsed this baloney less than two weeks AFTER that plannin’ fool Potter got a scathing letter from DLCD about his “submission” – a hack job “comp plan” that DLCD laughed right off the stage – to the point that the DLCD writer suggested that next time Molalla get someone to proof read and to correct the massive spelling errors!
So, over TWO YEARS AGO the City Council ignored feedback from DLCD, ignored the County process, and passed a meaningless Resolution endorsing population #’s that are far too high. And then they muddled right ahead and let Potter, the plannin’ fool from Hell, write over TWO YEARS worth of more plannin’ baloney based on the WRONG POPULATION FIGURES.
WOW – what WILL they pass next ? A Resolution declaring Molalla the best city in Italy? Will they succeed and move the city to Texas? How about if they declare Molalla the State Capitol and take over running everything – how’s that for a scary story of your “leaders’ at “work”?
NEWS FLASH: It’s final – SAFE HARBOR AHOY!!!!
Clackamas County just sent ANOTHER LETTER to Molalla plannin’ to say once and for all SAFE HARBOR IS THE ONLY OPTION.
Can Molalla get its money back for all the BAD LEGAL ADVICE – and for all the years plannin’ WASTED plannin’ with the WRONG POPULATION FIGURES?
The plannin’ fools can now REVISE EVERYTHING – and the BIG LOSERS will be the pushy, greedy, “we could care less about Molalla” INSIDE TRADING LAND SPECULATORS.
Get it yet planners: LESS POPULATION MEANS LESS LAND. And the way things are going here you add land INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS ALL THE TIME – the next addition will be SCOTTS – how many acres will you “get” when that polluter goes bye bye soon? Aren’t you lucky that you have all those abandoned acres of car lots, lumber yards, mills, empty store fronts, and Scotts to “plan” for? All that opportunity without having to add a scrap of land!
Plannin’ opportunities abound here – called INFILL.
What a wealth of opportunity! Get a plannin’ – it will be easy now that there is NO CHOICE BUT SAFE HARBOR!
Today’s Oregonian has an article in a series called “Jobless in Oregon” titled “Losing jobs, hope” about hard times in Harney County, Oregon. There is a quote from a Harney County resident about the horrible lack of economic opportunities that could have been made by a person from Molalla, since it hits the problems in our box canyonville village on the head. The quote goes:
“It’s the whole chicken-and-the-egg thing. No one wants to locate here because there’s nothing here. But there’s nothing here because no on wants to invest here”. (Hines City Council sometime member Kevin Taylor).
Economic opportunities are shrinking state wide – unfortunately, transportation, quality of life issues, and concentrated work forces will determine where future economic growth will occur – and that doesn’t bode well for off the beaten path, ill planned, tiny Molalla. It is time for Molalla to celebrate the only going economic engine here – agriculture!
I laughed when I read recent plannin’ co-mission minutes where clueless Commission member Joe Greenman actually lamented the presence of the “feed store” in downtown.
Hey Greenman – do you get that the FEED STORE actually MAKES MONEY AND HAS A TON OF CUSTOMERS?
Hey Greenman: do you get that your “co-mission” is proposing idiotic “equestrian estates” in the CITY? Do you get that LARGE EQUINES EAT A LOT / NEED A LOT OF “STUFF” – and need FEED STORES NEARBY TO STAY ALIVE? That generates MONEY! The FEED STORE MAKES MONEY!
So, Greenman, I dare you and the scoff law fools making “plans” to create zoning to hound one of the few types of businesses – FEED STORES – that make MONEY out of the city! Get your heads out of the sand – read and heed the above “chicken and egg” quote because it fits Molalla perfectly!